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Sunday, July 25, 2004 | Dean People and Taliban supporters: Beyond ABB
If you are familiar with the chat rooms and message boards, and tributaries thereof frequently featured on CNN, or if you remember the old Taliban chat room, or even hang out in South Asian IRC channels enough, you have met people who, although they claim to be pro-Taliban all the way, yesiree, would have a cow if suddenly obliged to live by Mullah Omar's Rules of Refined Rural Pashtunistan Conduct.
They "support the Taliban" not because they believe that God does not want us to fly kites or wear nail polish, but because the Taliban is perceived to "stand up" to the US.
Same thing with Osama. There are millions of people all over the world who know nothing of Agent bin Laden's 27 year career with the CIA, who carry his picture around and chant his name because he, too, is perceived to have stood up to the US.
So desperate are people in the Majority World to throw off the yoke of corporate warlord colonization that they will rally round anybody who will publicly say it should be thrown off, and ask questions later.
That same phenomenon can be seen with regard to the Dean movement. While there is no shortage of Dean loyalists who agree with him on every issue, and will defend his positions as if they were the last of the good china, the more interesting Dean people, and in my opinion, more threatening to the political establishment, are those who do not particularly agree with Dean's actual positions (or who most decidedly and vehemently disagree with all of them) but who are intrigued by what someone called the "spirit of the Dean movement," the idea of change.
With all due respect to Dr. Dean's more ardent admirers, Dean's political philosophy is pretty prosaic. As is Dean. There is no rags to riches story, no charismatic wildfire, just another rich white guy in a gray suit.
So where's the danger? Isn't that just what the Democrats wanted? Well, yes and no. While Dean the man, Dean the politician were fine, and his politics were fine, Dean the independent spirit wasn't.
While the party hacks sat in back rooms with their designer water and cell phones, Dean did not wait for them to come calling. He turned off his cell phone and turned to the internet, and by the time primary season rolled around, he was considered the front runner. But he had done this, the base he established had done this by themselves, largely outside of the Democratic party umbrella of guidance, and when the party machine took a good look at the Dean machine, it scared them to death.
The idea that people, mostly affluent white people, true, but affluent white people acting on their own, as individuals, as families, not as DNC precinct cells, had managed to rake up this much political dust was indeed frightening.
What these Dean people had in common was that desire for change - and if it could be done by affluent white people on behalf of a mainstream moderate rich white guy in a gray suit, could it not be done by - well, ANYBODY? Millions upon millions of anybodies - the non-voting majority, ethnic minorities, even God forbid, the POOR?
So Dean and his people had to be taught a lesson. But the real lesson is that democracy is a real possibility for the US - if its people - all its people - will reach out and grab it. If they want it badly enough, if they are sophisticated enough to see beyond the cotton-candy fog of ABB as long as its who WE say, if they will work as hard for it as young men from everywhere from Yemen to Bangladesh are willing to work for the Taliban, not because they love the Taliban so much, but because they want to be free.
If all that would happen, maybe there could be a "candidate" who DID have scary ideas like having the US cease aggression and disarm, making medical treatment a service instead of a commercial product, even dragging out the old notion that the purpose of having a government at all is supposed to be about the well-being of the people, and that democracy means that the janitor and the manicurist and the forklift driver decide - not just the CEOS of defense companies.
Actions like Sep 11 do not happen in a vaccuum.
Long before those hijackers ever stepped foot on the planes the damage
had been done. They were brainwashed with the same type of garbage
propaganda that is spewed from Fatwa's weblog.
Middle Eastern countries are so much more barbaric today and preAmercia than America can ever hope to be...America has only been around 230 years...who did you blame for everything before that Ductape? I am calling a Fatwa on your bullshit!
IMO - terrorist plain and simple. He is an Al queda operative who
should be put in a cage on gitmo Skinner
My favorite..."In Defense of Holocaust Deniers"
I always thought that "The Enemy Within" was just a metaphore for liberalism, that is, until I encountered Ductape Fatwa. He should be in an orange jumpsuit for sure.
peopleforchange.netductape is either a commie, al queda, or a deep cover mole
Tells you something about this asshole doesn't it. He's really serious.
I believe that DF is nothing but a Republican plant...
Ductape is a commie, a terrorist, and he drinks blood too. He drinks
Capitalist blood. He eats unborn babies too
Give me your address and I'll send you $20 and a thank-you note for taking your hatred elsewhere.
A terrorist with a sense of humor!
He ain't nuthin' but shit
inadequate, halfway house bullshit
You are a dumbass. Fuck you and your condescension about us "benighted sheeple." hamletta
Untruthful, damaging bullshit
no better than the neocons and no different than Timothy McVeigh
dailykos.coma turd in the punchbowl...if DF were Joe Hill he probably would have killed himself rather than get put to death.
A compost pile of fecundity
dailykos.comdespicable and literally mentally ill